I know and welcome to the big fight now it's that time of the year when some people are busy applying for foreign universities some people have just given the IAS main examinations and the big question keeps coming back what is the best career for a young person to follow
right now for decades and decades the
kids used to be one choice the civil service or then people that now seem to be saying forget about it the MBA is the new civil service others say forget about it it's now all about dot-com and new media careers and what have you so we're going to try and settle this once and for all what is the best career that you should be really thinking of and we have a great panel here to take us through all all aspects of this month aspire is joining us from from Bangalore here in the in the dairy studio we've got the vehicle Carney former IT secretary government of Karnataka took early retirement is now the chairman and CEO brickwork India v credit rating agency in the country harsh Mander somebody else who was in the is left it but went in a slightly different direction is now a social worker and and a writer and and an activist canal val is a co-founder and CEO of snapdeal.com one of the people who didn't even think of taking the civil service route from what i know went to Wharton and state and you know why is that the path that people should be taking now we'll find out somebody who did take the civil service exam and stayed with it all the way through reaching right to the top of that particular profession TSL Subramanyam former cabinet secretary great to have you with us as well saveth imagine is the deputy dean and the chief executive at the isp campus in in Mohali what our young people telling you right now we will no doubt find out Shiva sir Krishna is in the is on leave right now triangle sorts of other interesting things so does the is give you that option as well is what we're going to find out completely different career perhaps coming from Colonel Raja Shukla was in the army again moved on from there came to us in NDTV and the media for a while there's now writing and doing a lot of other exciting stuff as a defense analyst so let me start off by throwing the big question to all of you can we just start off with the civil services would you still say that it's the best career well I think this is the subjective people want to be engine drivers they want to be politicians they want to be professors academia so many people passionately want to be doctors so I don't think we can really postulate for anybody what is good or what is bad you started with the civil service well there are very even today firstly India was not like this 30 40 years back when a joint service we had civil service was the only thing itsattribute we have failed heavily they've also succeeded in many things opportunities have opened up industry business trade 1 2 3 4 etc etc and therefore it is very good there were a few places where an age of 30 you can be head of a district have the experience of the fortunes of 20 lakh people with you you can interact with them floods droughts elections accidents 1 2 3 4 disease plague the whole range of things very few where you can influence national policy very few really where you are not worried about the profit motive of a particular Lala you are worried about or you are concerned about the like Mun they're in a different direction government gives you that opportunity if you want to be to be a servant of the public having said that every job has its huge process a huge minuses there are opportunities everywhere pitfalls everywhere and the claim is very hard to the top everywhere ok and I think civil service is a great career even today in India ok so Hugh Corral let me come to you next he was saying that at the age of 30 they are not too many careers where you could be the district magistrate now today on the internet and in startups you could be 25 as you were when you spinning i thinkyou founded you or your company you could be 19 sometimes and be a millionaire what about 14 year old kid who wrote a really great app and is now making a lot of money you know in it as well it changes at least my viewpoint is that if your end goal is to do something good for your country people you love their many ways to get there I think you know MBA could be one civil services could be one entrepreneurship could be one or a combination of these could be could also work you know I'm I'm young passionate patriotic Indian but that doesn't necessarily mean that I have to go into the civil services to do something good for the country I think there are many ways to achieve that that end how are you doing more for the country after leaving the civil services now you think you have being able to do more than you could have done within the service I think you know those 20 years that I spent in the service are the most wonderful years that a young person could aspire for as women I was saying you know in a remote tribal district you're implementing land reforms you're helping you know provide justice to people to tribal people you're fighting untouchability you are trying to you know help people to be fair in a communal riot I don't think that their jobs which allow you that kind of range of options even now the idea of public service itself the idea of public service itself has got devalued over time and I worry about that who are our heroes today it's not important I think if you're doing public service from within the government or outside it they're digital spaces for both but public service as I as a predominant aspiration of young people is become it has become devalued over time making money not a bad thing at all make money honestly as an aspiration but but our hero should be people who put put themselves you know put their own individual so careers and benefits behind I think that's getting a little lost in today's times and that's more my body the idea of canal were the canal I guess you what did you would argue that you're here I couldn't have Bill Gates who need both he made a lot of money and then his back to society is okay but the idea giving back to society is one I just want to say about compassion about courage of convictions about standing up in very difficult times for what is right I think that you know that's really what I want to see whether you're in government or anywhere else many roads lead to Rome you can pick which one works for you and you can still get to Rome I I picked one different people here pick different roads but doesn't mean in my mind I agree that we can actually all do good for the country if that's the goal or if it's yog if your goal is to just be make a lot of money for yourself you can do that too however I don't think necessarily MBA is the right route or civil services the right dose is also unfortunately these days inaudible I was actually looking at some statistics there are three and a half lakh MBA graduates last year out of which over 1 lakh got placed there were five lakh applicants for the civil service exam 910 got selected in a country with no social security net I don't want to bet my odds against that just to rewind to a certain period of time and I had the choice I was probably then probably the first person in my family which didn't go into the civil services one of the reasons was that will you still have the chance to make a difference given that cont the country has moved on from the time when mr. Subramanium joint and you know other generation where they could actually make a difference a lot of people are now feel that sometimes you get frustrated because actually you cannot make a difference the civil service is no longer had the power that they want state so if you want to make a difference do it somewhere else sit in a TV studio and shout at people who actually if you ask me the question I am both in is as well as an MBA from Wharton and I have seen both the roles that's why I'm asking you yeah I feel my personal preference is still is course by a wide margin is it is when you join your first job at the age of 21 23 whatever you walk into the corner office and since the age of 23 till the age 60 till you retire you are always in the corner of this you are always the bus's so is he he's in the corner office from the time he started that is at another choice what I am saying is but what happens is as an entrepreneur you will be only specialized in one narrow stuff whereas if than is you get to see the real India see for if you're an MBA where you know all of us like mom's give you go to the school in a school bus come back etc and then you sit in an air-conditioned office that do you sit on the shop floor you don't sit as the CEO and after 10 12 years gradually you move into CEO being the CEO right from the day one and also an opportunity to see the real India you go to the villages there is no job in India that can offer you this kind of diversity journalism does give you that chance to journalism gives you a chance to have the same varied experience it gives you a chance to go out and see the real India and to experience what's really but also to intervene I mean I think that it really mean no we will pick the ISO journalism and journalism only you know gets you to report and legislated if you have a very honest media let us say you really end up reporting but if you're a nice officer you can do something you can do them you can do something right media what happens databases I don't think that I don't necessarily think getting into the CEOs office on day one is necessarily the right thing also correct I think there is a path to learning and once you've really scrub the shoes of your feet you learn many many many things which we did as we started our company your career you don't stop learning when you become CEO crack again in there's number one user just got even better download any TVs new have fully optimized for Retina display fullscreen view
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